OMFG!!!!!11!!!11!!!

"Alex Zapata" (alexzapata)
06/24/2015 at 14:55 • Filed to: None

The mother-loving Golf R is coming to México, finally after years and years of wait it is finally coming (I think I may pass out from screaming my fan-boying ass off)

You all know the stats, 300 hp AWD and (hopefully) German-made goodness, I’m in love and I want one and for the first time ever I will be able to legally buy one.

On more immediate news, they are bringing the up! to the market and bringing back the Polo GTI with the new 1.8t engine that is apparently a cracking car.

The Polo GTI is a very very interesting car, aside from being a small 190hp Hot Hatch, it has the particularity that it is the only car I’ve ever heard that was DSG only for the old 1.4 Twincharger pre-facelift model, but now with the 1.8 the DSG is an option (!!!!!) and comes standard with a 6-speed manual gearbox, so with the facelift VW, the most DSG happy automaker of them all, has put the manual back on the spec sheet.

Today is a good day to be a Mexican VW fanboy.

DISCUSSION (13)

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/24/2015 at 15:14

Can you buy the WRX in Mexico? Much better buy... Or Civic Si?

Vicente Esteve > Alex Zapata
06/24/2015 at 15:46

QUE?!

Where the hell did you get this info from!? This is amazing news.

Alex Zapata > Vicente Esteve
06/25/2015 at 11:37

Apparently VW confirmed it themselves!! I got it from El Universal and stuff, I found it on a couple of different sources. Let me search.

http://noticias.autocosmos.com.mx/2015/06/19/vol…

That’s the one I could find quickly, but if you search I think you can find it somewhere else.

Alex Zapata > AthomSfere
06/25/2015 at 11:41

The Civic Si??? That is slower than my 1.4 Golf, much much slower, as far as I know nobody is buying those, anywhere.

Subaru is not a very well stablished brand here, servicing is sucky and the cars themselves are expensive as hell,the WRX is about a 10% premium over the GTI, without HIDs, no dealer network and overall a very bad owner experience and the looming threat of them leaving the country, and like an STi is about the price of a fully loaded Audi S3/M135i and I’m sorry but I would never pay premium brand price for a Subaru.

Also, Mexican roads are much more alike to European roads, instead of American, what may seem like a good buy to you is completely the opposite for us since we have very different needs, we require a good balanced chasis since our roads are much twistier overall, also a very well setup fuel delivery system since our roads/cities tend to be all over the height spectrum, Subaru fails miserably at that/don’t bother at all so their cars tend to be really slow off the line here, so you end up with a much slower car than advertised.

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/25/2015 at 16:33

1.4 golf faster? At 8+ seconds its about 3 seconds slower to 60, and the Si is a blast on twisties (as well as reliable).

The WRX you would think would do well up high in Mexico?

Alex Zapata > AthomSfere
06/25/2015 at 17:18

Again, fueling, Japanese manufacturers don’t bother adapting the cars to the height and I guess air density of some of my cities, Subaru sells about 1,000 cars a year in Mexico, maybe even less, so they don’t have a special setup, they just run as they come and are not very good at it.

And the Si, 2,250m above sea level, again, slower than my Golf, by rule-of-thumb calculations The Si makes about 156 hp at this height, I don’t know where you get that a Si can do 0-60 in 5 seconds, but at sea level probably does around 7 and here it does it around 11+, mine has ~180hp I think, it’s about what the A1 S-line or the Ibiza Cupra level of power (YAY leftovers) and is TwinCharger, so no loss of power due to high elevation, so yes, my car is much faster.

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/25/2015 at 17:51

I was thinking the Si was high 5’s. low 6s, looks like I was a little low, 6-6.5 seems the average range.

And so you lose 50hp, any idea what your 1.4 actually makes? And the WRX should see the same average with its turbo and lose less than the Si.

Of course, your other points I can get, if there is no customer service etc. Just curious. Any idea if you’ll be getting the Type R when it goes on sale in the US and Canada?

Alex Zapata > AthomSfere
06/29/2015 at 12:05

Honda does tend to sell about the same stuff here as in the US, so I’m hoping the answer is yes, though last gen the Focus RS ran uncontested in the mexican market, no Megane RS, no Type R and no Golf R, the RS only ran against the S3 and STi at completely different pricepoints.

This time around, Renault is bringing the Megane RS for what I assume is the last year for this gen, in a couple of years Seat will bring the Cupra 280 as the Cupra R (they stagger the Cupra and Cupra R models for after a facelift), VW is bringing the Golf R and obviously Ford is bringing the RS once more.

I don’t know for sure how much my car makes, but a magazine tested them at 178 hp, which is consistent with the Ibiza Cupra spec, I assume it’s around there, experimental testing that involves absolutely no street racing whatsoever proves it to be around there, way faster than any atmospheric engine of the sort.

Yeah it sucks for Subaru, but such is life, they are amazing cars, they are just impractical here and asking for trouble.

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/29/2015 at 17:16

I’d personally (if in your position) hold off for the Civic Type R. First one we ever got here in the US too, Integra Type R sure... but that was NA.

Alex Zapata > AthomSfere
06/29/2015 at 21:56

Well yeah for sure, I would love the Type R, let’s hope it does come and is reasonably priced, I was asking for the Renault Clio Sport for ages to come back, they finally put it on sale this year, but it costs as much as a Focus ST, so I cannot in good faith buy something that expensive realtive to competition.

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/29/2015 at 22:18

We don’t get the Polo or the Clio... They are Fiesta-ish in size and price though correct?

Alex Zapata > AthomSfere
06/29/2015 at 22:28

Should be, yes, but Renault has such a following and cult in Mexico that they figured they could charge more than a Mini S for it...

AthomSfere > Alex Zapata
06/29/2015 at 22:36

Huh... Yeah. Mini S are cheap enough but... I wouldn’t want anything less for more!